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Thanks to the many contributors who share their time, knowledge, and expertise to keep the blog interesting, informative, and fresh in a variety of ways. It is truly a collaborative effort, and I'm honored to be part of it.
Thanks to the many contributors who share their time, knowledge, and expertise to keep the blog interesting, informative, and fresh in a variety of ways. It is truly a collaborative effort, and I'm honored to be part of it.
ReplyDeleteSharon August 2, 2020 at 12:24 PM
Why is Netflix only bringing foreign tv series. What I love about Netflix was that you can binge on your favorite tv that you necessarily didn’t get to watch on the regular channel
DeleteWhile there are certainly a good number of TV series from the good ol' USA on Netflix, it does seem like they are outnumbered by foreign series. One reason is that there are a lot of other countries producing TV series, so of course, any one country will have fewer series than the total of all the other countries. Another reason, I suspect, is that Netflix can probably get more for their money from distributors of foreign series than for US-made series.
Either way, I agree with you, Sharon, that binge-watching a good series is one of the many pleasures offered by the streaming services. Who can possibly catch everything as it airs on television? Thank goodness, we now have great back-up!
By the way, if you haven't already, you might want to check out Hulu. They've got a great selection of television series, and often run episodes that have just aired on TV, so if you miss something, you don't have to wait months to catch it. They offer a 30-day free trial.
I'm having a problem with My List today. When I click 'Move to top' for a title, it moves to the bottom instead.
ReplyDeletei joined this club today, and i have far from a full list. i spent several minutes dragging something from the bottom to near the top. move to top worked for me last week.
Deletewhile i'm here, those of you who have dvd subscriptions are able to report bad customer service from streaming division supervisors if you wish. the dvd division can still go over their heads to their bosses if you get bad service (i.e., apathy).
I figured out a process to manually move titles to the top of My List.
DeleteDrag the title you want at the top into second position instead, then drag the existing top title to below the title you just put in #2 position.
The #2 title (that you want to be at the top) will move to the top, and the former top title will stay at #2.
More effort than we should have to expend or endure, but it worked for me and hopefully will work for all!
sounds like it should work. i'll try it next time. i'll also be chastising them again on twitter for their incompetence with #fixmylist (last time i did, they wanted to continue the conversation in private, going as far as asking me to email them so they can associate my twitter handle with my netflix account, which i saw no upside in, considering this isn't a "me" problem). send some shame their way with that hashtag, those of you affected.
DeleteIt just started doing this for me. I'm finding it to be an improvement. If I can't move expiring titles to the top, at least I can move them to the bottom and watch in reverse order ;)
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DeleteWay to make lemonade, Anomymous!
alas my device won't let me easily go to the bottom of the list. i'd have to scroll through the entirety of it. i'm not getting much traction tweeting at individual employees and group accounts; i guess they have no shame. i don't know how some of you have put up with this problem for so long.
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DeleteI'm in the same boat, Travis. I stopped being frustrated when I gave up all hope of it ever getting fixed. But I'm still aggravated because I don't understand WHY they won't fix it - if it worked before, it should be able to be made to work again. And you can't talk to anybody who knows anything - only the customer service robots who know about 1/100 of what the likes of you and I know. Arrgghh!!
i don't understand either, for this and another unexplained problem particular to my device that i've been reporting frequently through multiple platforms since april. i even sent a lengthy DM (direct message) to a senior manager of the netflix engineering team describing these all in detail, and last i checked there wasn't even a read receipt on it. it's like they've absolved themselves of basic upkeep.
Deleteit only took 4 months, but this is working for me now. anyone else still having problems?
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DeleteI don't think mine is working right yet, but I don't even try anymore. I'll check today, and let you know. Glad yours is working!
another idea is you would definitely and perhaps others have a longer invisible saved section (reminder: in the early months/years of streaming, netflix did show this). that long list of titles that would be added back may contribute to the programming errors since netflix is so incompetent.
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DeleteThat would make sense, Travis - at least in the Netflix universe. I use all the My Lists to keep track of what's expiring, so there are a LOT of "saved" titles. I still can't move anything on any of My Lists, and added titles go wherever they please - not in order at the top or bottom of the list. This is true even when I'm starting fresh with a list because everything has expired, so your "saved" theory is a viable explanation. I wish there was a way to expunge all the old stuff.
ReplyDeleteHi PunkinheadDelux, a lot of us have been having problems with My List for quite some time now, and I think most of us have lost hope of Netflix ever fixing it (sorry to be so pessimistic).
There are a number of comments about this on the previous Disscussions page, but here is the summary:
My List usually seems to work okay up to a certain number of titles - not sure what the cut-off is. After that, functionality gets dicey. Adding titles and deleting titles both continue to work (usually), but moving titles not so much. I can't move anything anywhere - any attempt just ends in the title being back where it started.
Added titles do not automatically go to either the top or bottom of the list, but randomly end up wherever. Several titles added at the same time do not all go to the same place on My List; some may be grouped together, but again, it appears to be random.
I'm sorry you seem to have "joined" this frustrating club for Netflix users. I don't remember hearing your particular problem before. It sounds like your My List is still moveable, just not the way you want it to be. Of course, you can try call Customer Service, but I can't offer a lot of hope there. Let us know if your problem resolves.
And now we can no longer open an individual page for a movie or show. We get redirected to the latest mediocre Netflix production instead, with the title we wanted displaying as a pop-over. They have taken aggressive marketing to a new level. It's disgusting.
ReplyDeletethey don't have to listen to us. they have a monopoly. Look at DVD site, they won the war and now instead of getting a movie the next day I get it 5 days later and they have gotten rid of tons of movies when the dvd rules say all they have to do is buy dvds if they can't get a owner to let them make copies. The only way we could ever get them to fix the site is if we could somehow organize 10 to 20 million people to drop netflix as a protest to them ignoring their customers. They would care about that but could you get people to actually care enough to do it.
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DeleteHi Anonymous, I feel your frustration. Netflix can be so clueless - I'm sure there are a lot of people who feel as you do, but I think you're right that getting them all to protest would be hard to do. There's so much in the world that needs fixing, and most of us already feel like we have more to take care of than time to do it. With all their faults, Netflix is still a pretty good value, especially now that we're all indoors all the time.
I'm going to put a copy of your comment on the DVD page, so if others want to respond it will be where everyone shares that aspect of Netflix.
i'll reply to that aspect there. i generally agree with all of the above. it's the "good enough" service. the opinion on wall street yesterday was that netflix is due for a price hike in january, obviously thinking that people will pay it because they did last time, subscriptions being up since then.
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ReplyDeleteRegina Litman October 12, 2020 at 7:16 PM
One thing I've noticed is that when a movie I had in my list got dropped from Netflix before I removed it, and it returns to Netflix, it is suddenly back in my list! And it is in the same slot where it was when it disappeared. I have noticed this a few times, but I especially noticed it today. All of a sudden, "Along Came a Spider" was in the oldest part of my queue! I went to https://usa.newonnetflix.info/ and saw that it was not added in the past few days. But I found another website devoted to new Netflix additions, and I saw that it was added back on October 1. Since I saw it via another means, I just removed it.
Some terminology errors you may see me make: On streaming Netflix, it's My List. On DVD Netflix, it's Queue (not sure about the word "My" before it). I tend to use the two interchangeably. I wonder why Netflix uses two different names for these.
Also, the web browser I used for the first several years I was online (we're talking about 1996 through the early twenty hundreds here) was called Netscape. I have caught myself typing Netscape instead of Netflix here more than once. And to make matters worse, if I don't catch my errors right away, I can't edit my messages once they're posted. That's why you may have seen some messages deleted by me here. That's the only way I can correct something or to repost with "Notify me" checked.
DeleteUnusual that it took a while for Along Came a Spider to go back on your My List - that usually happens as soon as a title that expired from your My List returns to streaming. You might have noticed that since you've been on Netflix, expired titles frequently return. I wish there was a way to predict that, because it isn't true for all titles. If we knew something would be coming back (and when), that could relieve a lot of stress.
As far as My List vs. Queue, I think the DVD operation is run by different people than the streaming business. And don't worry if you need to delete then re-post a comment. You're not alone in that, but I share your frustration. It would be nice if we could just edit the already-posted comment.
some historical trivia for Regina's benefit follows. when the dvd and streaming services were more integrated on netflix.com, long ago, the dvd end used to display information on incoming and outgoing streaming titles. it was where we used to get expirations of up to a month ahead of time for movies and learn what would be arriving on streaming soon. the two services, owned by one company and at the same domain but, as Carol says, run and billed separately, have dissolved most of their integration, to the customer's detriment. streaming used to be a free(!) addon to a netflix (dvd) subscription, and in the early years it was known as an "instant queue."
Deletewhen a title in my list that you had previously added and that expired/was removed returns, it will be there immediately, but you just might not notice it, especially as there may be a delay in the dvd site noting its streaming availability. as you pointed out, they return approximately where you left them, so i know what areas to check, especially toward the beginning of the month. certain major studio catalog titles come and go with some frequency. other titles that don't fit that description may never return, especially if netflix's internal metrics didn't indicate their high popularity or they are too expensive to license again. tv series hardly ever come back regardless. even series netflix branded as their own "originals" that nonetheless expired stick around on their streaming competitors but don't return to netflix.
i have fond memories of netscape, particularly its composer that easily allowed me to create and edit my own webpages.
DeleteThanks Travis, that benefitted me, too.
This replaces a twice-deleted comment. I forgot to check "Notify me" on the first one. I made the second one a new one when I meant to make it a Reply.
DeleteActually, I hadn't checked the part of My List with the earliest entries for a few weeks. When I finally scrolled all the way down, I happened to notice it in the place where it was before it disappeared. So it had probably been there for several days by then.
The oldest entry in My List is a Canadian documentary about a cat show that was one of the first things I added back in June 2018, probably at the same time as the two Godfather movies that were streaming then. I don't know how I discovered it. I have kept it in My List all this time, in case I get in the mood to watch it, but if it leaves Netflix before then, I won't feel too bad. Then, of course, if it later returns, I now know that it will be back in My List.
Speaking of Canada, I learned another Netflix lesson while visiting that country in August 2019. The hotel room we were in had Chromecast on the TV. I had a lot of fun watching movies accessed by my iPad from the Kanopy service that my public library makes available for patrons. I then decided to try to watch something on Netflix. "Schindler's List" was one of the next few movies for my Oscar winners project, and I knew it was streaming on Netflix at the time. I had been planning to watch it shortly after I got home, probably after I got through some Netflix DVDs of the handful of winners that still preceded it.
But when I tried to do this from my Netflix iPad app, "Schindler's List" was not in My List. I finally figured out that "Schindler's List" was streaming from Netflix in the U.S. but not in Canada. I eventually watched it in the proper Oscar winners sequence after I was back home. I did watch some shows in a disaster series that was due to go off Netflix the following month while in that Canadian hotel room.
DeleteYes, every country is different. If you plan to be traveling, and want to know what's available where, check out unogs.com. They have everything in the Netflix catalog for ~30 countries.
This is in response to the following comment from the Home Page. Original comment:
ReplyDelete"Regina Litman October 21, 2020 at 5:29 PM
. . . Incidentally, I like the way this site uses the way I was taught to alphabetize way back in elementary school: The words "the", "a", and "an" are ignored, and the titles are shown alphabetized on the second word. Some of the other sites that list what's leaving or coming to Netflix include these three articles in their alphabetization. . ."
Hi Regina, You're right that the rule for this type of aphabetization includes A and An when they are the first words in a title. However, I modified the rule to only include those titles that start with The. My preference is for strict alphabetization, because then people who aren't aware of the modified style won't miss something they're looking for. However, there are too many titles that start with The, and (especially on the last day of the month) there can be a long list of "The" titles, and that can be hard to look at. So I decided to alphabetize according to the second word for those titles. It's not a perfect system, but I think it's the least confusing, once you know to look for A and An titles under "A."
I wanted to clear that up so you wouldn't miss anything you might be looking for if you searched for the second word when titles start with A or An.
Thanks Carol. Guess I must be 'Old School' because I learned to only ignore 'the' but include 'A' and 'An.' I prefer it the way you do it. Thanks again for all your hard work!
DeleteI hadn't noticed the alphabetizating of "A" and "An" here. I was mainly concerned with "The" because of the titles I mentioned in my post ("Bad News Bears"/"The Bad News Bears" and "Help!"/"The Help"). One place where I asked why they ignored these article words mentioned that it was because they served a multilingual audience, and they didn't want to have to keep track of the articles for different languages. I totally understand. Has "Les Miserables" ever been made into a movie, either from the hit musical or another source? If so, that one would likely be filed under "L" in English but "M" in French.
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DeleteThis was another reason I decided to apply the "alphabetize by second word" rule only to those titles beginning with "The" (English only). While "Les" and "El," etc. translate to "The," we seldom get more than one movie per day with those articles. My only consideration was to not have a list with multiple "The" titles all together.
Btw, if you like musicals and/or the Les Miserables story, you might want to check out the 2012 movie with Hugh Jackman and Anne Hathaway. It won three Oscars, and was nominated for a bunch more, including Best Picture.
has anyone had success lately manually reordering their list? i know mine was broken for awhile, working for awhile, and now broken longer than the first while
ReplyDeletei can manually reorder my list the hard way: dragging and dropping (which means dealing with page refreshes if moving up). i don't move it all the way to the top because it will just go to the end instead; i've been following Barbara D's advice above. the "move to top" button still does the opposite as well, and not one employee on twitter has responded, let alone fixed it, so you see how much they care about the functionality of their product. it's all about the prestige of working there, not the quality of their work.
DeleteCurrently not working. "Move to top" doesn't move them anywhere at all. Can't drag them either. Sigh.
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MyList on the iPad works just as it does for Travis. I don’t bother to call; that’s just wasting my time.
ReplyDeleteMore seriously, on my old Visio, the app still works, except that now it no longer shows MyList. I can see all their recommendations; the search function works; and I have the “continue watching “ and “watch again” options, but MyList is just a string of black boxes where the posters should be. And no descriptive sidebar with the “available until” notice. This was where I got my only two week notice. My other Netflix apps only give one week. I can still find the two week notice on the Visio app, but only if I key the title into the search box (so I can still check a title for Carol, if need be), but I can no longer just scroll through MyList to check for notifications. I can’t see how Netflix saves any money by killing my MyList in this way—it’s just meanness.
Netflix has been jiggling around with my Visio app for a while now, so I cling to the faint hope that MyList will come back. But nothing is likely to improve my view of its abysmal customer service.
the word techies use is "support," and they're not inclined to continue supporting (maintaining and developing) what they consider "legacy" systems: old smart TVs and players. these are allowed to fail so customers will upgrade.
Deletei'm still using the playstation 3 (ps3) version of the netflix app. new features and design elements continue to be rolled out to make it look attractive and like it might function as normal. one of their design choices, probably years ago now, made it impossible to scroll through my list from the other direction. if i scroll left, it just goes to a side menu of options unrelated to my list. the only way i can go to the end of my list is to scroll right through every title. i don't tend to browse my list from the app anyway; unlike most customers, i guess, i already know what i'm going to watch. i am not inclined to watch much other than expiring titles because netflix busted basic playback on the ps3 app back in april: the 10-second instant replay button stopped working (thus longer load times for traditional rewind) and as soon as the end credits begin the movie or show stops completely with no way to continue, only exit or play whatever stupid thing netflix automatically advertises when the end credits are supposed to, and used to, continue playing in the background. as a result, to see through the end credits (even if i fast forward through most of them), i have to restart the movie or show every time and fast forward past the point that it stopped. i've informed netflix of this since april, through multiple platforms, as if it should take a customer to do so, and they have straight up lied to me over the phone about this being a deliberate change.
Unfortunately, Netflix is not just "not supporting" my old Vizio "legacy" app. I would be fine if it would leave the app alone. But it is constantly juggling with the app. And in its jiggling it has deliberately decided to black out MyList while leaving all other parts of the app functioning. I can see no technical or commercial reason for its doing this--it seems to be just meanness. Nor does this seem to be "so customers will upgrade." NetFlix doesn't earn money when its users buy new devices, and Vizio is unlikely to be pleased with NetFlix, deliberately and unnecessarily, making its app less usable on "legacy" Vizios. Vizio owners may go out and buy new TVs, but if they blame Vizio for what NetFlix is doing, as many will, they won't be inclined to buy a new Vizio.
DeleteOn another point, is it just me, or has this blog lost its "notify me" option on the discussion pages? I can no longer find it.
Forget my last point. I found "notify me" when making the last comment on my Desktop Mac. I haven't seen it on my iPad. So it is just me.
Deleteit's not that they chose to black out my list. i agree in spirit with you that the apps would be fine if just left alone. i was happy with mine; it still plays content in 1080p at up to 7.15 mbps bitrate (on my pre-smart tv/pre-4k vizio, for what it's worth). what netflix is doing is making universal changes that break some apps, yours and mine, for example. i don't think mine has had a new version to install since last year, yet new design elements continue to appear in the menus and info screens. my guess is they did something "under the hood" that caused my instant replay to stop working and when the end credits are detected to stop playing them abruptly instead of background play. for you, they must have changed something about my list, maybe something with the graphic display. in each case, they simply did not have the will to account for or go back and fix their mistakes because these are legacy apps. you're right, they don't get commissions on customers upgrading, but they want people off of the older systems so they can completely abandon them and focus on the newer ones. i'm not defending them, but this is the reality of why we're stuck with worsening UX (user eXperience); despite all their billions and reputation as technological revolutionaries, they just don't care enough to continue maintaining decade-old or older apps and will lie to customers about it.
DeleteIt has been many months since I have browsed through "Discussions". I have an older Vizio Smart TV and have had the same problem with black boxes for My List for many months. I have had them show up once in that time, and I made the mistake of deleting one of them which caused all of them to go black again. I am certain that this is a problem related to the number of titles. I do not know what the magic number is, but my wife's queue is less than 100 and they show up no problem. Mine is, and has been continuously, over 400 titles. We recently bought a HiSense Roku Smart TV and My List shows up fine there, so perhaps limiting the queue to ~200 titles might work? Anyway, I pretty much just use my laptop to look for expiring titles which of course limits the expiration notices to about 6 days.
DeleteSince I'm a newcomer to Hulu, I'd like to know, is there a website that lists movies and other stuff that is leaving Hulu soon? Also, I'm still thinking of getting Amazon Prime, so is there a website that lists movies that are leaving Prime soon?
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DeleteYes for Amazon Prime - look in our sidebar under Related Websites, and click on Expiring Titles on Amazon Prime. Many of our contributors also contribute to that site.
I'm not aware of a similar site for Hulu, although lots of people would like to have one. There is a press release, but I don't think it has everything (similar to Netflix's press release). See https://reelgood.com/leaving/hulu
I don't have Hulu, so I can't be more specific. Perhaps someone who subscribes to Hulu can offer more information.
I just recently dropped Hulu after having it for 13 months, and you can see expiring titles as one of the tabs within your queue. I can't recall how much notice was given, I would usually just check daily.
DeleteI'm looking at My List on the Netflix website on my laptop. An expiration date of 1/1/21 (really 12/31/20, of course) is shown for one of the movies. It's nice that this is now being shown on this page on this device.
ReplyDeleteI have rarely seen any movies in a theater since the mid-1980s. On February 17, 2007, I was invited to join some others in seeing "The Queen" in the first day of resumed operations in a just-restored old movie theater. There were still some kinks to work out, and by the time the movie appeared on the screen, the first few minutes of the film had already elapsed. We were told that because of the way the movie was loaded onto the new equipment, it was not possible to restart it. So we missed that segment. I put "The Queen" into My List a while back with the intention of watching those few minutes. This is the movie in My List which is showing the expiration date. I'd better watch that beginning in the next few days! (It's also in the list on this website.)
One reason I'm glad that I did see "The Queen" that day is that shortly after that, my nephew, who was 11 at the time, asked me what the last movie I had seen in a theater was. It's a good thing I had seen that one so that I didn't have go digging way back in my memory.
Today, that answer would be "Sing Along 'Grease'", which I saw in that same restored theater on October 4, 2018. Before that, I'm not sure! I was invited along to see "The Heat" while visiting some people out of town over the July 4 weekend in 2013. It was either during that showing or one of the ones I went to in the restored theater near me in the late 2000s or early 2010s that I learned, to my dismay, that theaters now show real ads, not just previews/coming attractions (never "trailers" when I'm doing the writing or speaking!), before the feature film starts. Well, at least they're not in the middle of the film. Or are they doing that now, too?
DeleteRegarding expiration notices on My List, Netflix has been doing that for a long time. Perhaps you have been watching movies before they get that close to leaving, so you haven't seen it before. Currently, you will see the notice 7 days before a movie expires, and 30 days before a whole series expires (nada if only some seasons of a multi-season series are leaving).
I notice that Netflix quietly screwed us some more. I used to be able to view a little over 400 movies on my list in chrome. I think it was in the teens or 20s. Now I can only view 400 exactly. So they keep hiding more and more movies instead of fixing the original problem unless they are going to really screw us and eliminate 100 movies form our queue soon.
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I request which expiring titles I want gone is:
Mile 22 (2018)
There Will Be Blood (2007)
Queen Of The South (2016 Series)
Django Unchained (2012)
Lady Bird (2017)
Breaking Bad (2008-2013)
Better Call Saul (2015)
The Walking Dead (2010 Series)
The 4400 (2007)
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Another Comedian January 10, 2021 at 2:33 PM
Talk to Dave Chappelle!
I didn't feel like this was right for the expiring page, but the series Slasher (2019- 3 seasons) will be leaving Netflix for Shudder this year. Shudder will also have the newest season of it. Might not happen for a while.
ReplyDeletenetflix recently hit 200 million subscribers, its stock price has doubled in the last year, and it no longer has to borrow money, so it should be no surprise price increases have been announced for next month. somehow with the influx of cash the engineers can't manage to fix the service.
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DeleteOne does wonder. At a conservative 10 bucks a month per subscriber, isn't that 2 billion dollars a month? My, oh my.
Where does one see Netflix price increases? Are they emailed to subscribers, or do they show up in the app or on the website? And is this for both streaming and DVD?
Deletegot it in my email this morning and then saw it on the website. this does not apply to the dvd service.
DeleteI never got the email, and I can't see it on the streaming Netflix website, either. I have the Basic plan, in which I can watch on one screen at a time in standard definition. Perhaps the price for this plan is not changing.
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DeleteYou are correct, Regina - your plan is not changing. Here is an article about the latest change:
https://www.theverge.com/2020/10/29/21540346/netflix-price-increase-united-states-standard-premium-content-product-features
This article is from October 29, 2020. Note that it says, "current subscribers will see the new prices over the next few weeks as they roll out with customer’s billing cycles."
Here is what Netflix emailed to me on November 21:
Hi Carol,
We’re updating our prices to bring you more great entertainment. Your monthly price will increase by $1 to $13.99 on December 21, 2020. [I added bolding.]
This update will allow us to deliver even more value for your membership — with stories that lift you up, move you or simply make your day a little better.
Questions? Visit the Help Center to learn more or contact us. Or manage your membership anytime by visiting your Account.
Hope this helps.
If a movie is available to rent from Amazon Prime, does one have to be a member of this service to rent it? Remember, I'm not asking about streaming at no extra cost besides membership. I'm asking about renting it.
ReplyDeleteI'm not (yet) an Amazon Prime member. Sometimes when I search for a movie I'm interested in seeing, I find that it is available for free to Amazon Prime members, but I haven't yet found one that is ONLY available from that source that I really, really want to see. Once that happens, I'll probably become an Amazon Prime member.
I have found some other movies that are available to rent (or buy, but I generally only want to rent) through Amazon Prime, but they're not available for free even for Amazon Prime members. There is at least one such movie in this category that I really do want to see, and it's not available for free or to rent through any other streaming source that I have access to or on DVD from Netflix or a library.
DeleteYou can rent (or buy) a streaming movie on Amazon Prime without becoming a Prime member. If you've never ordered anything from Amazon before, you will need to give them your information - name, contact info, credit card number, etc., but they will only charge you for the rent of the movie you choose. They will retain your info so that you can easily rent again without going through the whole rigmarole.
maybe it's temporary, but as of today My List on the website isn't showing expiration dates. :( i reported it to the netflix know nothings.
ReplyDeleteI see the same issue over the past few days. I'm currently in a chat with NF CS and they are useless. I spent 30 mins explaining the issue and either they cannot comprehend (they outsource CS to an ESL country) or are intentionally deflecting as they know they screwed up. I'm inclined to believe the latter.
DeleteI also had my expiration dates disappear. I tried to use the char to find out if it was a bug (likely) or a change. In short, the chat was a waste of time and the rep was useless. I tried to call the 844 Customer Service Number but after explaining the issue to the rep, but before she could respond, the line went dead with the message on my phone of "Network Not Available." I am not sure if it was T-Mobile or Netflix's system.
ReplyDeleteHopefully, somebody at Netflix who can do something about it learns of our discontent.
feel free to use the hashtag #fixmylist on twitter and bring it to the attention of people like @netflix + @NetflixEng + @wearenetflix (the only account that will respond is @Netflixhelps , but they will redirect you to DM and email to quiet you and be as useless as the chat and phone representatives)
DeleteWhen I looked at Twitter #FixMyList and clicked "LATEST," the most recent entry showed as November 24, 2020 and was about "Move to Top" actually moving NF titles to the very bottom.
ReplyDeleteI added a tweet per Travis's suggestion, but would appreciate others doing so as well to hopefully get Netflix's attention. Since the biggest issue seems to be NF Customer Service representatives not having any idea about the My List version that is more text than thumbnails, the last thing included in my tweet below is a screenshot from this awesome site: http://expiringonnetflix.blogspot.com/p/where-how-to-see-expiration-dates-on.html#:~:text=From%20the%20Browse%20menu%20in,of%20the%20movie%20or%20show).
TWEET BELOW
NF, please fix the missing expiration dates on My List (laptop). See screenshot. #fixmylist
@netflix
@NetflixUIE
@WeAreNetflix
@NetflixEng
https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-LpJsjqzsSMk/WAM9lgxewTI/AAAAAAAACNo/aDVwk-TFDFYLG4ApLKnsXGoSvIZ58DkKACPcB/s1600/My%2BList%2Bscreenshot.jpg
it's sadly a multipurpose hashtag. it was previously used to point out and shame netflix over the sudden limit to 48 titles, with the balance not displaying. anyone can take up the mantle for any cause relating to the dysfunction of my list.
DeleteThank you. I am behind the times; I do not have a twitter account.
ReplyDeletethey did eventually fix the problem with my list artificially cutting off at 48 titles after a lot of twitter users complained and many months of #fixmylist directed at them. regarding being able to move a title to the top, that started working for me again, as i mentioned above, so i couldn't keep tweeting at them about something that worked for me. the disappearance of expiration dates is fair game. what gets me is these are all so basic. other big companies' core services don't break, and if they do then they aren't allowed to be broken for months or years. as i've implied, it makes one wonder where the billions of dollars go if their programming sucks this much.
DeleteCarol, apologies: I originally posted the following on another discussion page that I can't figure out how to get back to and I don't think was the right place, so you may find a duplicate.
ReplyDelete"Is anybody other than me missing expiration dates beside movies in the manual order My List? Yes, I've called customer service. No, I didn't get any help. No, I don't expect to get help from them. Also, my ability to manually reorder My List has been broken since October 2019. Have I gotten any help or better yet has Netflix fixed the problem. What do you think? But they do have a note in their system that it is a known problem so there is no need to up the problem to the technical staff. I tell each hapless Customer Service rep that if another streaming service with content close to Netflix ever appears, that Netflix is toast. I always get the same tired silence. Guess they've never heard of the fall of the Roman empire."
I do see a couple of posts above that have the same problem, so I'll look into their suggestions.
DeleteNo problem about a possible duplicate, Lynn. I haven't come across one, but if I do, I'll just delete it. So far no one is having much luck trying to get My List fixed, either for the missing expiration dates, or for the ordering problems. Very frustrating. Thanks for writing.
I am glad I found this comments page. I had all the My List problems you mentioned. I don't know how many times I called/chatted about the 48 title limit issue before they fixed it. I am still having issues with the order of the titles and not being able to move titles anywhere near the top. It was actually better when they had the bug that sent them to the bottom, because at least then I could easily send special/expiring titles to one end of my list.
ReplyDeleteThere ought to be someway to elevate our issues with in Netflix, but the reps just keep getting worse.
Thanks to all.
Over the years, I've asked for a Supervisor - and they've always been more knowledgeable than the Customer Service Reps. However, when I asked the Supervisor for a tracking mechanism so I could see progress - no such thing. When I pointed out problems that have existed for months even over a year without a resolution, was told there was no mechanism for escalating. But, not to worry, Netflix will take care of its customers...
Deletethe reason it gets worse is because netflix barely disguises its contempt for its most loyal customers. even if you speak to a supervisor, who i agree is more knowledgeable, he or she will not be open with you and in some cases will flat out lie. i've been condescended to and called them out on it as well. i've found social media shaming to be more effective as sadly that's the kind of world we're living in these days, but if it's just one user complaining then it doesn't add up to much. if you still want to go the private route by phone, if you have a dvd subscription, you do have recourse for at least tattling to that department on dismissive streaming department supervisors and poor service, providing you make your case.
Deletethere is also an email address for sending specific technical information (like screens), but they don't do customer service, won't respond to you, and based on my experience won't care much either. still, if anyone wants to document the issues, it's tr @ their site domain.
The correct link to the movie you list as Women At War 1939-1945 is on imdb.com at: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11549746/?ref_=nm_flmg_wr_4
ReplyDeleteI posted on 2/12/21 that I was missing the display of expiration dates and the ability to reorder titles in My List. Still missing them, still can't reorder. Have not called Customer Service (a misnomer if I've ever heard of one) because I get tired of calling and them not fixing anything.
ReplyDeleteOk, complaint made so let me offer a suggestion that is helping me keep track of expiring titles, maybe it will help you. When I see notice of an expiring movie on this blog or elsewhere that I want to watch before it goes away, I add it to my second profile because my first profile has lost its management abilities. The list in the second profile is just movies that are expiring so it is usually not more than 10-20 titles. I discovered that I could not only put titles in the order they are expiring, but when I add a new movie, it goes to the top of the list like it is supposed to. This begs the question, "Why can't NF fix my first profile, so that it works the way it should?"
This is a little extra work to keep track of expiring titles, but the other problem my first profile has is I cannot see all of my titles on one screen, so if I have an expiring title, can't move it to the top of the list so I can keep track of it, and it is trapped in the portion of my list that doesn't show on one screen, I would never see an expiration date (assuming they were working.)
In case you don't know how to create another profile: (1) Go to the top right of the NF screen; (2) Click the square icon next to the bell; (3) Select Manage Profiles from the drop list; (4) Click the + mark above Add Profile; (4) Enter a name in the text box; (5) Click the Continue button, (6) Click the Done button; (7) Click the profile you want to add titles to; (8) Select the language you want to work in; (9) Click the Continue button; (10) Select three movies to add to your list; (11) Click the Continue Button (this is a weird step, but don't sweat over the movies you choose since you can later remove them.) You now have a second profile that you can add, delete or reorder movies that works (still no expiration dates). To move between profiles, click the square in the upper right corner of the screen and select the profile you want to work with.
good tips. to answer your rhetorical question, they're lazy and incompetent. no other explanation. they issued a new version of the ps3 app to install, and it still doesn't address the problems they introduced nearly a year ago. i'm guessing the only change was to introduce their password-sharing test in the news last week, but i might call them up and ask for release notes.
DeleteI'm missing all of a sudden Available Until dates as well in my list. This sucks!
Deletetake to twitter and use the hashtag #fixmylist. as well as explaining the problem to @netflix, @NetflixUIE, @WeAreNetflix, and @NetflixEng, include engineers @coleturner and @burgessdryan. with the previous my list problems, tweeting complaints eventually worked. there hasn't been much uproar over this particular issue yet.
DeleteI signed up for a 30-day trial of Prime a week ago. Unfortunately, due to a hectic time in my life, I have not had a chance to watch anything on it yet, 7 days in. I suspect, however, that I am going to keep it past the 30 days.
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ReplyDeleteThis note is in response to the recent trend of joke posts on the Home page (Current Expiring Titles).
Please post all such comments on this page - Discussions & Ideas. Those of us who enjoy light-hearted fun will be able to appreciate them here, and those who just want to see what's really expiring without any unnecessary comments will be able to do so. Please respect our readers' time, and also the fact that some of us have disabilities that make it harder to get the info we come here for and that "extra" comments get in the way of. Thanks for your consideration.
Yeah, but nobody will see the jokes here, where comments come to die.
ReplyDeleteIf you have to come here to post your humor anonymously, maybe you should accept the fact that you're not funny.
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DeleteActually, comments live on this page forever, and will be much more appreciated for being in the right place. You wouldn't stand up in the library and start telling jokes, right? People are there for a different reason. This is not a comedy blog, and people come here for a different reason, too.
Looks like we're about to lose the ability to manually order My List. There's a big message at the top of My List now that says "It's time to say goodbye. Beginning early September, you will no longer be able to manually order titles in My List. Titles will default to automatic ordering." :(
ReplyDeletesuper lazy of them, but i guess that's to be expected.
DeleteI just noticed that, too. It's already sort of not manual anyway, since the move to top button doesn't ever seem to work right anymore and new titles get added at whatever number they feel like, but I hope titles don't randomly jump around depending on what you're watching. I check my list periodically against a list I keep on my computer to make sure nothing left unexpectedly, and titles jumping around will only make that harder.
DeleteHaving been a paying customer to Netflix since 1998, it depresses me that they keep taking away features I use daily, not fixing features for months/years, and just plain ignoring any bug reports about the User Interface.
Deletei did something i know most of us are not wont to do at this point and called them. this was my first item of business. they said they are a feedback-driven company and that this was a response to customers. i asked what their reason was for not continuing to keep both, since manual order isn't defaulted to anyway. i got put on hold for a few minutes while the supervisor communicated with the backend team. finally he came back and said there was no explanation for that. i then noted my list has been malfunctioning at least in not displaying expiration dates since february and this decision strikes me as their solution instead of fixing it. he took down my feedback. i then went into old orders of business that for me date back to april 2020 and was abruptly dumped back into the hold system for a couple minutes before i got a different supervisor who took down my repeated complaints. i could tell from the three people i spoke to today they weren't U.S-based, which some of you know used to be something netflix advertised never doing. bottom line, i spent an hour and 23 minutes on these bozos, took a break, and then for another 45 minutes cashed in my chips with the DVD division, who had previously told me they can do something if the service from streaming is especially egregious. i noted how it's gone downhill since the pandemic and work from home and how their "engineers" only seem to want to break their website and apps, not fix the problems they introduce. DVD is small enough that i get the same person i've spoken to several times over the years, and he really listens, cares, and is honest. he made it clear he couldn't promise it'd be fixed, and i said i didn't expect that, but he is taking some ownership and is on the case. at the very least, he has a bigger voice than we do.
Deletei will share this other gem. the first streaming supervisor who i spoke to emphasized that netflix responds to the number of calls they get about an issue or change. i said that most long-time power users have grown cynical about the company's practices and don't feel listened to. it's probably set in stone, but there is still at least a month before the change is enacted, so if you have a few minutes, just call and register your complaint. i likened this change to letting an algorithm decide where to put your keys.
DeleteThere are so many streaming options now, I would think making a service easy to use and supportive of customers' ability to manage content would be a high priority. Netflix should keep in mind that two can play the "it's time to say goodbye" game.
Man I am *really* cheesed off with Netflix doing away with manual lists! So now we just have to deal with the chaos of Netflix choosing willy nilly how to order things. Goes without saying I like to manually place expiring shows/movies as close to top as possible (even this is glitchy with Netflix not putting things at exact top!), so now I may have expiring titles placed at bottom of my admittedly extremely lengthy streaming queue. Not good, I am definitely going to call and complain about this. I cannot imagine how Netflix could claim with a straight face that this feature has been recommended to be removed by the users that is just laughable!
DeleteI’ve no love for NF. MyList has dropped down to about 70 and, I lower it by about 10 a month. It was 450 titles at its peak. I’ll bail when it’s down close to 0, and up my DVD to get more films there. I’ll stream somewhere else.
DeleteBut I think I understand what NF is doing. It doesn’t like us. I don’t mean its customers. I mean us, Carol’s army, specifically. We’re the ones with long lists of films we want to see, and we get annoyed when the films we want drop off our lists. Then we complain, and are an overall annoyance to it. It wants customers who turn on NF and will watch whatever is on offer, or what it is promoting. Those are the vast majority of its customers, and they are much easier to satisfy. NF can get along without the few of us who just complain
I agree with everyone and every comment about Netflix's latest step toward alienating longstanding customers. I was presented just now with the "It’s time to say goodbye. Beginning early September, you will no longer be able to manually order titles in My List. Titles will default to automatic ordering." I came here to report it, but that's been done already; not surprising in this fabulous group. ChapelHillNC, your comment about NF wanting customers who will watch whatever seems to be evidenced by the new "feature" on the profile choice screen to "Play Something". I will contact them to voice my objections and complaints -- not today, but soon.
DeleteIn what environment are you seeing this message? I have looked for it in the following environments today:
DeleteWeb page (netflix dot com)
iOS app on my iPad
Android app on my Samsung phone
Comcast/Xfinity X1 box app
I have not seen such a message. Has Netflix backed down on these plans? Or is it because I have never maintained this list and have just kept the items in the order in which they were added (last in, first displayed)? I haven't even figured out how to re-order them.
I do actively maintain the sequence in my DVD Netflix queue. "JFK" has been at the top for a very long time, but I have put others in different sequences in this time. Is it the DVD Netflix queue that these messages are about? But I just looked at my Queue in the Android app on my phone, and no message is there, either.
i replied to this earlier, but Carol may need to restore the comment (1628028866548) because i included 2 hyperlinks. the short answer is, you need to enable manual order to see the ongoing message.
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DeleteRegina (and anyone else interested), I made a page showing the My List graphic with the "time to say goodbye" message. It's at:
https://expiringonnetflix.blogspot.com/p/my-list-graphics.html
Travis, I'm not sure what you're referring to. If the info on the page I created doesn't cover it, let me know. I'm not able to find comments by the number (if you know how to do this, let me know that, too). It only works for me if the comment was on the Home page. If your comment is earlier on this page, let me know the date, and I can find it that way. Or you can just reprint it. If the comment was deleted, I can't restore it - they're gone forever.
DeleteTravis, nevermind. I found your comment. I don't understand why it didn't print on the page, but here it is, now:
it's on https://www.netflix.com/browse/my-list, and it hasn't gone away (so no one has false hope). you have to have manual order enabled to see the message there. https://www.netflix.com/YourAccount -> PROFILE & PARENTAL CONTROLS -> Order in My List -> Manual Ordering
Hey everyone! I love this website and everybody who helps contribute to it! I wanted to share with you my blog post:
ReplyDeletehttps://sites.google.com/view/singularagent/home/blog/20210801-last-day-to-watch-on-netflix
My artificial intelligence software SingularAgent is able to browse to the Netflix website, check each movie and tv show in my list for an expiring notice, and send me an email every night with the results. I thought some visitors on this website might be interested in reading about it.
I doubt that automated AI checker is ok. Usually TOS ban crawlers all it is is crawling right?
ReplyDeleteTechnically maybe per the Netflix Terms of Use:
Deletehttps://help.netflix.com/legal/termsofuse
"4.6. You also agree not to [...] use any robot, spider, scraper or other automated means to access the Netflix service"
Except...
1) SingularAgent is an automated application but doesn't "scrape" like a typical web scraper. It is not a web crawler. It opens Google Chrome, browses to the website, opens developer tools, copies the HTML, and parses it. I could do the same thing manually by typing on the keyboard and clicking using a mouse.
2) Lots of companies already scrape Netflix for commercial use. I am currently only using SingularAgent personally and would fall under "fair use".
3) The legality of web scrapers is not consistent in court rulings:
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2019/09/victory-ruling-hiq-v-linkedin-protects-scraping-public-data
https://www.zyte.com/learn/web-scraping-best-practices/
https://www.imperva.com/blog/is-web-scraping-illegal/
4) SingularAgent waits at least 5 - 10 seconds before browsing to different titles in order to not put a heavy load on their servers.
Not sure if this is the right place for it - if you liked the Netflix Original "Slasher", Shudder has picked it up and started showing season four. Seasons 1-3 remain on Netflix with the big red N on the front.
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DeleteThanks chris b. Seems odd that another service would have season 4 before Netflix. Good to know.
Anonymous August 15, 2021 at 7:56 PM
ReplyDeleteWhere do I go to find recent discussions on lack of expiration dates. At one point Carol had outlined going to your List in the main menu (bar down left side of tv screen) and then clicking through those (rather than having to open them) to see expiration date--that was a great lead from Carol. As I look at my list nothing is expiring; but I know Ripper Street is, because it's on this list for 9/7. When I go back to my list and then click on it, I do see it expiring. Hence, my inquiring as to where I would look for discussions on this issue--I know it's been brought up many times before.
DeleteI don't know that prior discussions will be a lot of help, because Netflix keeps changing things. The comment you refer to was made at a time when you could just kind of zip through your list and quickly see if there was an expiration date. That is no longer true. You have to click on the title to see the page dedicated to that title, as you indicate you have done.
Prior discussions should mostly be on this page, but there could also be some on the expired titles pages (which used to be Home pages, and still have the comments made during that time). I don't have an easy way to find all of these comments, and I'm afraid I don't have time to go searching for them. If it's important to you to find them, you can try doing a "control F" search - maybe try searching for "my list". You'll get a lot of comments that aren't what you're looking for, but you should also find those you are. I'll try to find the comment you referred to, and leave another reply here.
DeleteThe comment you refer to is at:
http://expiringonnetflix.blogspot.com/2021/01/current-expiring-titles-for-netflix-usa.html?showComment=1614121717610#c926654014181005675
I think most of the comments you are looking for are on that page, and there are also some on the May-June expired page at:
https://expiringonnetflix.blogspot.com/2021/03/current-expiring-titles-for-netflix-usa.html
I've been wanting to put together a page dedicated to "How to find expiring titles on Netflix," but want to wait until they stop puttering with it.
If you can no longer quickly scan the titles for expiration dates, without having to click on each one, I'm truly amazed that anyone has the time to do that. Huge thanks to those who are still contributing titles.
DeleteAwkwardly worded, by "do that" I mean click on each title in your list.
Deleteyou can see when and where we dropped the ball by not fussing when they removed the expiration dates on the website and not complaining when they undid the display of that information browsing on a device. that emboldened them to remove the manual my list altogether in less than 3 weeks. my calling and requesting they bring back those features alone isn't going to cut it. for what it's worth, the device display data issue does seem to be pure ineptitude because it displays it still selectively based on whether that real estate is taken up by another item, commonly referred to before as trivia. the same title will or won't show it, probably randomly at login, but regardless, to be absolutely sure you see all of the removal dates, you do have to go into info mode on all other titles, which is a pain in the ass and a gigantic waste of time considering they apparently actually do want to display that info without doing that.
DeleteThanks everyone; I now have an idea of where to go to see what's going on with this issue. And, now I also see this at the top of "My List" (perhaps everyone else has already seen): It's time to say goodbye. Beginning early September, you will no longer be able to manually order tiles in My List. Titles will default to automatic ordering.
DeleteHah, if they move what they want me to watch to to the top, I'll start at the bottom and work my way up until I see something I want to watch. Doesn't really help with the expiring times though.
Reddit has a thread on this--interesting comment re 3rd party licensing: https://www.reddit.com/r/netflix/comments/oudg13/manual_queue_ordering_to_be_removed/
@Carol >> A page dedicated to "How to find expiring titles on Netflix" will be very useful, once Netflix stops changing the game. Thank you, in advance!
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DeleteThanks for your support, Barbara D. I'm going to see what happens after they remove the manual My List. I'm hoping (against hope?) that they might make it easier to see the last-day notice without having to open each title. Fingers crossed.
for those who want to save a copy of their manual order for reference before it's removed, load it in your web browser, print, and select print to PDF. it will preserve your list in text that can be copied (unlike from the website itself) and even contains the links to each individual title.
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DeleteThanks Travis - good idea.
So it looks like the "It's time to say goodbye" update finally happened. Not a fan. Still doesn't show the expiration when you hover over it like on amazon Prime.
ReplyDeleteThe way it does it now is going to be a real P.I.T.A. to try and find expiring titles in your que. You have to hover over it and then click the down arrow. Even on a high speed gaming laptop, it's slow.
yeah, it sucks, clearly meant for sheep who will watch what netflix tells them to watch. where's tony when you need an "and netflix shills." at least i called more than once and pleaded with them to rethink this and will call and complain again because they literally offered no explanation for why they were removing a feature that already existed and some customers relied on. without order, there's chaos. this is the company everyone loves? whatever.
DeleteIt's even worse than I first thought. There doesn't seem to be any method to the order at all. I had thought it was by most recently added, but no. I like to bump the expiring titles to the top to make them easier to find, but even when I remove/add it still doesn't bump it up.
DeleteTo expand on what Punkin said, not only is the order random, mine seems to change order every day. A couple of years ago I put everything on a spreadsheet in alphabetical order and removed everything from my list. The only things I put on my list now are the things we are actively watching. I found the Continue Watching section to be unreliable.
DeleteI keep spreadsheets for all my streaming services now, because it seems like these companies tend to gravitate to making things less user-friendly rather than the other way around.
among other systems, i had movie franchises and sequel and remake tv series, standup specials by the same comedian, and behind-the-scenes documentaries next to their main movie or series all in sequence before the change. i finally looked through my list today for expiring titles, and all of that is sprinkled aggravatingly nonsensically.
Deletewhen you look at the top movies trending, it's obvious who netflix is catering to. i think the company is just thumbing its nose at us with this. next logical step would be removing my list altogether.
Everyone, please keep contacting NF about this. I realize I may be OCD, but I can't imagine anyone preferring to have their list scrambled every time they open the service. I just posted to their Facebook page, although I doubt they will approve my post. Maybe at least they will read it.
ReplyDeleteI'm thinking of just keeping my list in Excel (I already had it that way) and removing all the NF originals from My List. I hate doing that, but at least that would reduce the "clutter" and I could still check for expirations on the non-NF originals.
I originally posted a two-profile suggestion for keeping up with expiring titles in Netflix (NF) on 2/14/21. No need to go above and re-read it since the salient parts are below. I’m going to offer a second suggestion of how to keep your sanity with expiring titles on any streaming service you might have in another post—this one got a little long. And, PunkinheadDelux, no need to apologize for being a little OCD about this problem, I think it is driving a lot of us a little batty and we too are stressing over managing our movies.
ReplyDeleteOK, here is how I keep track of expiring and non-expiring tittles in NF. I HAVE THREE PROFILES with THREE MY LISTS: (1) my main profile is where I add new movies, (2) the second profile is where I add expiring titles (3) see below. When I see notice of an expiring title on this blog or elsewhere that I want to watch before it goes away, I add it to my second profile, named, not surprisingly, Expiring Titles. My first profile has nearly its limit of 500 movies (if that is still true—who knows anymore). There is no way to effectively keep track of that many movies since NF keeps dinking around with the ordering. The list in the second profile is just movies that are expiring so it is usually not more than 10-20 titles. It is much easier to tell what is expiring with a smaller list. After I add the expiring movie to the Expiring Titles profile, I go back to my main profile and delete it from My List since I’m usually running fairly close to the limit. If you aren’t close to your limit, don’t worry about it and let NF remove it when it expires.
I created a third profile, Preferred Titles, for non-expiring movies from my main list that I want to watch sooner rather than later so I don’t have slog through the behemoth that is my main list trying to find movies. My main list is so large, that I sometimes forget what I have put in it. Also, I still have the problem of not being able to see all of my titles on one screen. Create all the profiles you need to help you effectively manage your titles and burn down NF’s data storage. Got no sympathy for them after the inconsiderate way they treat their users.
In case you don't know how to create another profile, here are the steps (I did this on a laptop using the Google browser to access NF (have no idea if it looks the same on other devices/browsers): (1) Go to the top right of the NF screen; (2) Click the square icon (Smiley Face) next to the bell; (3) Select Manage Profiles from the drop list; (4) Click the + mark above Add Profile; (4) Enter a name in the text box; (5) Click the Continue button, (6) Click the Done button; (7) Select the new profile; (8) Select the language you want to work in; (9) Click the Continue button; (10) Select three movies to add to your list (this is a weird step, but don't sweat over the movies you choose since you can later remove them); (11) Click the Continue Button. You now have another profile into which you can add or delete movies. To move between profiles, hover over the Smiley Face in the upper right corner of the screen and select the profile you want to work with from the list.
I hope this helps some of you manage your titles. If you have an idea that will help, please post.
DeleteThank you LynnK - I appreciate you taking the time to detail your process for managing the NF movies/series you want to watch. I think we're all trying to figure out how to best do this.
I wish NF would add the year and last-day info to what we see when we hover over a poster, and not make us open the big info page for every movie. Arrgghh.
Great idea LynnK! I just set up a new 'Expiring Titles' profile too. Thanks for the tip!
DeleteI also use different profiles and I have 5. One for me, one for my husband, one for my son (kids profile), one for expiring titles and one for movies that me and my husband want to watch together.
ReplyDeleteOn my profile I have only a few titles, ones that are preferred watch, the rest I manage by bookmarks. I have been doing that for more than 5 or 6 years, I think since Netflix changed the background from white to black. It is hard for me to read letters on black background and I found bookmarks are working excellent for me.Until last year I was bookmarking from instanwatcher, but Netflix messed up their data and they didn't work for quite some time. They are back, but they are not so good anymore. Before they had such good information about new titles, I would check them every morning with morning coffee. Too bad....
Now I usually use NewOnNetflixUSA. Good thing with them is that if one opens a page with a title one can see when it was expired and have some idea what was the subject and can find it elsewhere. I noticed that titles jump between Netflix and Prime and can be found on Tubi and even Hoopla. If there is a title that is not in those two websites (it happened a few times) I just bookmark it from google or trailer from youtube. So when I open my bookmark manager I can see titles of the movies and if I don't remember what is about I can open it and read synopsis or watch a trailer. If I want it I just copy the name to the Netflix website and it will show up in my list in a few minutes.I hate clicking around tv application.
Maybe this sounds really complicated, but it works for me for years already. I also bookmark Amazon titles from their website, i found it better than Netflix.On my bookmark bar I have a folder for expiring titles where I bookmark both services and with just one click I can decide what I want to watch.
I hope this helps as a food for thought. I find it so interesting that people have so many creative ways to bypass templates and adjust them to their own needs. I thank you all and especially Carol for all that is happening on this pages.It is such a comfort knowing that one is not alone....
that's a good idea with the bookmark folder of expiring titles. for netflix, because there's usually not much for me, i just have the titles typed and tend to recheck to remind myself. for prime, i take a screenshot of the posters and the days left to watch and keep it on my desktop. most of what i want to watch on prime expires without notice anyway.
Deletei've made this recommendation before, but what's nice about creating a list on imdb.com is you can order it however you like, it does show synopses (and year, director, stars, etc.), it shows if it's on prime (amazon owns IMDb), hulu, and various free and paid services, and more recently it finally also shows whether it's streaming on netflix. you can make your list private so only you see it when logged in. i plan to recreate my list there when i cancel. it's already mostly saved to PDF with links and the information manual order used to display.
Is anyone else having trouble getting the October 2021 page with, presumably, current comments that can be added to if desired? All I am getting, using both Chrome on a Windows 10 computer and Safari on an iPad, is the September-early October 2021 page with only a comment by Carol closing the page to further comments. Clicking on Home just brings up the same page.
ReplyDeleteI'm having the same problem.
DeleteI wonder if Carol might be updating the page and has it offline for a bit?
DeleteSame. It was showing up yesterday and today it was gone. Thought I was doing something wrong haha.
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ReplyDeleteHi Everyone,
I'm so sorry I wasn't around yesterday to see there was a problem with the blog. Here's what’s going on:
For some reason that I don't understand, Blogger - the Google website that allows people to create blogs (like ours) for free - took the Home Page offline, and put a notice for me that says:
“This post was unpublished because it violates Blogger Community Guidelines. To republish, please update the content to adhere to guidelines.”
I think Blogger must have a bug, because there is nothing on our blog that violates their guidelines, which are mostly about charging for overt sexual content, and the exploitation of children.
Unfortunately, they don’t specify what exact content they have a problem with, so I don’t know what’s causing Blogger to do this. When I choose “Request Review,” Blogger then let’s me publish, but a few minutes later, it goes offline again. Like I said, sounds like a bug.
Unfortunately, this might happen again. I’ll come up with a fix, and let you know.
P.S. Thanks LarryG!
DeleteOkay, here's the fix for now. Fingers crossed they don't unpublish the page. I made a page with just the expiring titles list. You can add newly found titles in the comments for that page.
The following url is also linked in the sidebar, at the very top.
https://expiringonnetflix.blogspot.com/p/current-expiring-titles-list.html
Hm... I wonder if it's because of the title "Zack and Miri Make a Porno." Maybe a bot got confused.
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DeleteHa Ha... that would be funny wouldn't it? But it's not a bad guess - and here I went and bolded that title and gave it a link! Poor little bot, just tryin' to do its job. :-(
i don't think that alone would do it because it's been removed before without issue. maybe something else on the page in combination is the reason. one way to find out is censoring the word "porno."
Deletei'm also wondering if it's just vindictiveness on netflix's part reporting the current expiring titles page. if i played a part in attracting that, i do apologize for the inconvenience. as you say, you and we are within our rights. unfortunately, when it comes to people with power, it only takes a little flexing of muscle to shut something down online and it's usually much harder for those with less power to fight back.
Just a thought: I don't think merely adding the Zack and Miri title/link would cause Blogger to un-publish the post. I read their Content Policy (https://www.blogger.com/content-policy?hl=en) and in the "Enforcement of Blogger's Content Policy" section, is the following:
ReplyDelete“Please report suspected violations of Community Guidelines to us using the 'Report' link located in the navigation of most blogs or by clicking here [link] “(actual link wouldn’t copy).
Clicking the link takes you to a page with the following:
“We rely on blog readers to report content that they find inconsistent with Blogger's Community Guidelines. When something is reported, it's not automatically removed. Reported content is reviewed by human reviewers to verify it violates those Community Guidelines. If it does, it is removed from Blogger. The author won't know who made the initial report.”
I read that to say that offensive content is only known about if someone reports the blog as being in violation, and it takes a human review/action to un-publish the blog. If a review ever took place, it would quickly reveal that this blog is about as harmless as a blog could be. Besides, Carol doesn’t strike me as the kind of person that could get a person so worked up to be that vindictive!
I wish I could contribute something positive towards solving the problem, but I don’t have any blog management skills. This might horrify you, but when I solve technical problems, I sometimes use the “square one” approach: copy the blog content to a safe place, strip the blog clean, and start adding content back a little at a time until the site breaks again. Hopefully, you were sitting down when you read my suggestion!
why don't you think it was a vindictive employee? this blog solely tracks content being removed, not added. the tone here is not fawning; it's probably one of the few critical places on the 'net. the employee probably went for the jugular, which was the current expiring titles post. mission accomplished, or so it seemed.
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DeleteThe reason I think the Zack and Miri title could have been the culprit is because I deleted it from the page that got unpublished and re-requested a review. The next day, the page became able to be published again. The reason I'm not positive about the title being the problem is because I had already requested a review (before removing the title), and it might have just taken some time for the review to be done.
There's a lot more to the story of everything that's been done to figure out the unpublishing question - including some heavy duty html clean-up by friend of the blog and tech support whiz, LarryG. I'll write something up for those of you who are curious about the problem's cause, so you'll have more complete info on which to base theories. Unfortunately, that will have to wait a little longer. I've been on deadline with some personal business, and that is taking up all my time for the last few days. Starting tomorrow (Sunday), I'll be back working on the blog to get it all up to date and back to normal. Hope to have it there by Tuesday.
ReplyDeleteHey, will g (and everybody else who remembers), King Arthur has finally made it to Netflix!
Close, the complete title is King Arthur: Legend of the Sword. There is a 2004 film just called King Arthur, which was the mystery title in a press release, still waiting for that one!
Deleteas far as HTTP vs. HTTPS, i used to lose comments (disappeared after publishing) because i was on the linked HTTP version of a page here and didn't notice. after enough frustration, i started manually changing the link to HTTPS, which solved the problem. you've mostly migrated to HTTPS, but you may want to scan the sidebar for the lack of HTTPS and update those if you believe HTTP is the cause of the error. (hint: start at Discussions Archive and work your way down.) i see real spam sometimes in the comments that you usually delete within 24 hours, and i find it hard to believe blogger removed the homepage after years of that happening.
ReplyDeleteI noticed that sometimes my messages don't get posted here. I hit Publish, and nothing happens to the message. I have taken to copying my messages first to a text document in Notepad if I'm on my Windows 10 PC or a Notes page if I'm on my iPad before I hit Publish in case this happens. Also, in case I find a typo and need to delete and repost my message (because there's no edit feature here!), I have the whole message to work with. (This is also good if I forget to check Notify me and have to delete and repost it with Notify me now checked.)
DeletePosting right now using the Chrome browser on my Windows 10 PC, I can't see if the URL contains HTTP. But I copied it to Notepad, and HTTP was there. I can also see a closed lock next it it in the URL address area.
i must admit, i did the same before i figured out the cause. i'd see a message i spent time composing just vanish before my very eyes for no apparent reason, oblivious that i was on an HTTP page and not aware of the significance. i got into the habit of at least copying the message to clipboard if not notepad, sometimes going to another browser to post it. as i commented on one of these pages, eventually i realized the HTTPS pages published my comments fine and i just had to remember to check. (your browser address bar should show "https" or a lock icon if on the secure page and may not display "http" if on the insecure page.)
DeleteI think you're right Carol
ReplyDeleteabout just giving
the blog a new look
and cleaning it up
and simplifying it
after doing some research
under what people
considered spam or malware..Etc
it can be people's emails
or comments any kind of links
it could be legit
but if it looks like spam to them
because
unfortunately people
do that kind of
spam thing for a living
and targeted innocent blogs
hopefully that's not the case here
it saddens me that you're
going through
this unpublished stuff
because your blog
is one of the best
also I was researching
under blogger
they have a section
where people report things to blogger
I hope you're
not being targeted
in a negative way in that sense
the only thing I can do for you
it's pray that
*SHEKINAH*GLORY*BLESSINGS*
ReplyDeleteThanks for your comments Travis, Regina, and Anonymous. I'm sorry that http links have hampered your ability to leave comments. I was completely clueless. Travis, I'm going to take your suggestion, and clean up every link on the blog. It will take some time, but we can keep using the back-up page.
ReplyDeleteThis is a question about where the expiration notice appears when you watch a movie. It seems to depend on the device you use to watch. I'm working on cleaning up the Submit Titles Guidelines, and I want to be clear when I explain where to look.
On my laptop: Let's say I choose a movie from My List. I can hit "play" without opening the info page (where I would see the notice). I am not seeing any notice at the beginning of the movie, as I do when watching on my smart tv or watching a series episode on my laptop. The notice does appear at the end of the film, but it's after all the credits and any other final message. Not everyone waits for the credits to be over, so it looks to me as though it wouldn't be difficult to watch a movie on my laptop, and not see anything about it expiring. Am I missing something, or has Netflix failed us once again? Thanks.
Carol, it takes three or four seconds of play, and then the "Last day to watch on Netflix: [Month] [Day]" pops up in the upper left on both my Smart TV (NF app) and Chrome Win 11.
DeleteCarol asked about where the expiration date appears when WATCHING a movie, which got me thinking about simply browsing your list.
ReplyDeleteIn Chrome Win 11, I have to click the movie icon to get the details. The top line of text says, "Last day to watch on Netflix: December 12." Does anyone have a way to see expiration dates without having to click into each and every movie, which is a pain-in-the-patootie?
On my smart TV (NF app), I sometimes see the expiration date when hovering over the movie icon. For example, when it's focused on The Lincoln Lawyer, "Last day to watch on Netflix: November 30," is displayed WITHOUT having to click into movie details.
In other cases, like "The Cuba Libre Story," I don't see any expiration until I click the movie icon for further details, where it says "Last day to watch on Netflix: December 7" as the LAST line of text.
Since Netflix provides me with zero-zilch-nada useful expiration functionality, on my laptop, I use unfollowed hyperlinks on Carol's list to keep track of the movies I have left to watch. Followed hyperlinks display differently so I can easily see all the movies I've already watched or have no desire to watch.
I really hate Netflix having devolved from being able to rapidly scroll my list to see what's expiring, to now having to in many cases click into a movie to see the expiration. Almost like Netflix specifically designed the User Interface to piss me off...
you didn't even have to scroll. you could search "/1" or "/2".
Deletei've posted about that discrepancy with the date sometimes showing browsing in the app. i sent the user story to the lead engineers, which may have attracted the revenge against this blog. not ready to throw in the towel just yet, next i want to see if there is a product owner i can contact. it amuses me they talk a big game about knowing and catering to customer needs when we all can attest to the opposite.
Travis - thanks for the suggestion!
DeleteOn my laptop, I tried searching "/1" and "/2" and a few other combinations: e.g., The Lincoln Lawyer expires on November 30, so I tried 30. No hits on anything, even though I have three expiring movies on My List.
i meant on the manual-order my list. although it didn't give more than 7 days' notice for movies and other standalone titles, it did show up to a month's notice for tv series. i'd load that page and search "/1" or "/2" depending on the decade. there's no shortcut to checking titles on the website one by one that i know of. netflix made finding expiration dates much more difficult by removing manual order.
DeleteBe Watching Out For Anime+ Intl.Dramas & Series
ReplyDeleteNetflix Is Crazily taken a whole lot of content off,
& not letting us Know In time
to find+know About To Enjoy & Watch It All!!
*SHEKINAH*GLORY*BLESSING* &
Kudos To Carol & bloggers
on this awesome blessed blog
we can have a bit more time.
<3<3<3 : )
i noticed the same. i was boasting upthread about not getting hit hard by the expiry bug anymore, but i've found myself in recent weeks watching anime and british series on the chopping block. it's made me think back to how netflix was upfront years ago about its goal of having over 50% "original" content because this is quality stuff being removed.
DeleteSince Dec 2019
ReplyDeleteBeen A Official Member
OF NETFLIX
After A Free Month Prev.
& They Did It then
with Disney content
& other things
& I woke up
to watch my wish list
& everything was suddenly
without warning gone
& after that
After discovering
sites like this blog
it helped a bit
though the last
year & a half they taken
years & years of content
off without warning
& helpful features gone
& unhelpful buggy features there
From one lover of rare films & series
Pref. international
You do not want to miss anything
worth watching & not complete it
if you are.
Tired Of Netflix
ReplyDeleteMonster Eating Machine
Of expiring titles.
Never Getting To Watch Anything
Nor Completion From Beginning to end
Being Blocked By Netflix Now.
In So Many Ways!!
ReplyDeleteHi Everyone, this seems to be a good time to begin a new Discussions & Ideas page. I have changed the link in the sidebar and footer to take you to the new page. I look forward to your comments there.
Comments here will now be closed, and the link to this page will be in the Discussions Archive section of the sidebar.